[Gnewsense-dev] gNewsense 4 alpha review

Discussion:

taiji_tao

2015-01-01 00:06:51 UTC

I am also interested in helping with the project. Keep up the great
work.

So far version 4 alpha is working great. Only bugs so far are:
no Iceweasel (temporarily using Debians), no libreoffice or openoffice,
and the desktop-base seems to be missing (assuming this is the standard
Debian package, which is nothing more than wallpaper and dressing).

Net install with openbox is fantastic. Somehow, seems lighter and more
responsive the Debian net install with openbox.

Will we receive regular updates, or only version releases ie: 4.1, 4.2
etc...?

Kindest Regards,
TJ

Sam Geeraerts

2015-01-01 21:43:46 UTC

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Op Wed, 31 Dec 2014 19:06:51 -0500

Post by taiji_tao
no Iceweasel (temporarily using Debians), no libreoffice or
openoffice, and the desktop-base seems to be missing (assuming this
is the standard Debian package, which is nothing more than wallpaper
and dressing).

I'm still figuring out Iceweasel, LibreOffice is currently building,
desktop-base version 7.0.3gnewsense2 is available in the repository.
Are you using archive.gnewsense.org (beta.gnewsense.org is deprecated).

Post by taiji_tao
Net install with openbox is fantastic. Somehow, seems lighter and
more responsive the Debian net install with openbox.

Glad you like it. We've not added performance patches, so I wonder what
causes the improved responsiveness.

Post by taiji_tao
Will we receive regular updates, or only version releases ie: 4.1, 4.2
etc...?

The repository will sync daily with Debian's, although the packages we
modify will lag a bit. There will be minor releases of the installer
and live images if there's a good reason for them.

taiji_tao

2015-01-01 22:24:55 UTC

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Yes, I am using archive.gnewsense.org.

Tried to reinstall desktop-base 7.0.3gnewsense2 with the following
error: "E: Internal Error, No file name for desktop-base:amd64".
Strange that it shows as being installed in synaptic, however, pulls
an error each time I install or upgrade a program.

Also noticed that non-free driver is still being recommended as it
does with Debian when loading. Example, it notices the Radeon graphics
card (AMD64), and that the non-free driver is not installed. Does the
same for VirtualBox?

As an FYI: I've kept an eye on gNewsense for some time, however, the
prior old packages were a deterrent. Started with Ubuntu, then Debian,
Crunchbang, Trisquel (which I really liked, except I did not feel
comfortable with the Ubuntu additions), came back to gNewsense, since
it makes the most sense to base it on Debian stable!

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From: Sam Geeraerts <***@elmundolibre.be>
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Subject: Re: [Gnewsense-dev] gNewsense 4 alpha review
Date: 01Jan2015(Thu) 22:43

Post by Sam Geeraerts
Op Wed, 31 Dec 2014 19:06:51 -0500

Post by taiji_tao
Net install with openbox is fantastic. Somehow, seems lighter and
more responsive the Debian net install with openbox.

Glad you like it. We've not added performance patches, so I wonder
what causes the improved responsiveness.

Post by taiji_tao
Will we receive regular updates, or only version releases ie: 4.1,
4.2 etc...?

The repository will sync daily with Debian's, although the packages we
modify will lag a bit. There will be minor releases of the installer
and live images if there's a good reason for them.
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Sam Geeraerts

2015-01-02 23:06:22 UTC

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Op Thu, 1 Jan 2015 17:24:55 -0500

Post by taiji_tao
Tried to reinstall desktop-base 7.0.3gnewsense2 with the following
error: "E: Internal Error, No file name for desktop-base:amd64".
Strange that it shows as being installed in synaptic, however, pulls
an error each time I install or upgrade a program.

Fixed it.

Post by taiji_tao
Also noticed that non-free driver is still being recommended as it
does with Debian when loading. Example, it notices the Radeon
graphics card (AMD64), and that the non-free driver is not
installed. Does the same for VirtualBox?

You mean it warns about non-free drivers at boot time? What message are
you getting?

Post by taiji_tao
As an FYI: I've kept an eye on gNewsense for some time, however, the
prior old packages were a deterrent. Started with Ubuntu, then
Debian, Crunchbang, Trisquel (which I really liked, except I did not
feel comfortable with the Ubuntu additions), came back to gNewsense,
since it makes the most sense to base it on Debian stable!

Thanks for sharing.

2015-01-03 19:55:47 UTC

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Errors on boot:

Had to write this down as fast I could so it should express the
content or the error, however, I do not think it is the complete error
message:

[Warning] Error Radeon kernel R600 or later requires non-free firmware
not installed

[Warning] Virtualbox additions not in virtual machine

Great fix on desktop-base!

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From: Sam Geeraerts <***@elmundolibre.be>
To: gnewsense-***@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Gnewsense-dev] gNewsense 4 alpha review
Date: 03Jan2015(Sat) 00:06

Post by Sam Geeraerts
Op Thu, 1 Jan 2015 17:24:55 -0500

Fixed it.

You mean it warns about non-free drivers at boot time? What message
are you getting?

Thanks for sharing.
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Sam Geeraerts

2015-01-05 21:53:58 UTC

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Op Sat, 3 Jan 2015 14:55:47 -0500

Post by TJ
[Warning] Error Radeon kernel R600 or later requires non-free firmware
not installed

Does it perhaps refer to firmware-linux-nonfree?

Post by TJ
[Warning] Virtualbox additions not in virtual machine

I see this when I use a Linux-libre kernel, but not with Ucclia's own
kernel.

Post by TJ
Great fix on desktop-base!

Thanks.

2015-01-02 01:17:44 UTC

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Hello,

Any plans on adding GNU IceCat, or would we need to compile ourselves?

Sam Geeraerts

2015-01-02 23:11:07 UTC

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Op Thu, 1 Jan 2015 20:17:44 -0500

Post by TJ
Any plans on adding GNU IceCat, or would we need to compile ourselves?

Our Iceweasel will be modified for freedom and privacy. It won't have
IceCat's default addons installed, but it will point to Gnuzilla's list
of addons.

Daniel Pimentel

2015-01-05 01:41:18 UTC

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Post by TJ
Hello,
Any plans on adding GNU IceCat, or would we need to compile ourselves?
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I like IceCat, and I tried compile it but there is problem with glibc
version:

/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found
(required by /home/dani/Downloads/icecat/libnspr4.so)
Couldn't load XPCOM.

Plataform: Linux gnewsense 3.2.0-4gnewsense1-amd64
Version: Ucclia

I'll create a package for IceCat and share it in future.

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Sam Geeraerts

2015-01-05 22:11:27 UTC

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Op Sun, 04 Jan 2015 22:41:18 -0300

Post by Daniel Pimentel
I like IceCat, and I tried compile it but there is problem with glibc
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found
(required by /home/dani/Downloads/icecat/libnspr4.so)
Couldn't load XPCOM.

The advantage of modifying Iceweasel is that it has less dependency
problems because Debian already took care of that. And we're aiming to
be selfhosting, so that includes build dependencies.

Post by Daniel Pimentel
I'll create a package for IceCat and share it in future.

I encourage third party repos if they stick to free software. They
could be a way to sneak in new packages (or versions) because they
don't have to be selfhosting. :)